Derek Bailey interview by Henry Kaiser
PERFORMANCE OF JUNE 30, 1974 at Wigmore Hall, London
Anthony Braxton / flute; alto and sopranino saxophones; contrabass, b-flat and soprano clarinets, Derek Bailey / guitar.
For those of us who were around in the dear dead days circa 1950, one of the minor turn-ons of that period was the Lee Konitz-Billy Bauer duo. On records like Duet for Saxophone and Guitar or Rebecca, they offered a fresh alternative to the conventions of jazz improvising, and even if these things didn’t always come off they hinted very strongly that if the techniques of duo working could be developed they would become a very useful avenue to follow up. They remained for the next two decades largely neglected.
Yet amid the brown marble slabs and pre-Raphaelite frescoes of Wigmore Hall, a highly unlikely setting for a concert such as Braxton and Bailey gave, most of these hitherto unformulated concepts could now be heard in a fully realized state. And with a good many others, some of them vastly more revolutionary, thrown in for good measure. Here again we were back with alto – at least some of the time – and guitar, in an atmosphere of fresh and original creative improvisation. The format was simple: Bailey producing a more or less continuous guitar line against which Braxton set lines from any one of his several instruments. One long improvisation before the interval, one after it.
It was a soundscape of richness and rare variety. It was also music of great purity: the last vestiges of popular song connections had been eradicated from it long ago. On the first piece there was a sense of the two men exploring what seemed to be a pre-arranged area from which they took off and to which they returned a couple of times before the music finally started to flow consistently, but this was as close to thematic relationships as the music ever got. Otherwise, it was completely non-motific, one improvisation leading to another, developing simply on the imaginative strength of two players.
Quite often too it became a music of sounds rather than notes: much of the harmonic-melodic-rhythmic set of relationships that had characterized and governed even the farther-out jazz improvising of the past – and the whole structure of Western European music – was jettisoned in favour of simpler principles of sound-relationships at a much more fundamental yet – because of the very shapelessness of such a deep-lying concept – much more dangerous level. For where there are no governing conventions established – no rules – there is always the real possibility of a loss of intellectual control, letting it all get out of hand. Yet it never did, and this is probably due to the nature of the approach here.
This was Braxton’s first appearance in London, and if it confirmed that much of what we’d heard from him on record in the past now belonged to the past, it confirmed also that the guiding force of his music over the years, his ability to intellectualize rather than emotionalise his music, was as powerful as ever. His work related back significantly to his earlier musical forms only in the all-important basic sense that it presented the listener with a carefully reasoned argument rather than an attempt to enclose him within an emotional unity.
The way he used his instruments was fascinating. On all these he used the widest possible range of register, as well as all the varieties of tonal inflection. Sometimes he even seemed to be avoiding the middle register; and on alto, though he used the middle register here alot, he generally distorted and blurred it. Sometimes he worked very quickly across high and low notes to produce a mid-range implication without actually going there.
He was well complemented by Bailey, whose command of every resource on his instrument is phenomenal, and who put on a particularly fluent performance. At the start of the second set, working with a length of wire and muffled strings, using the body of his instrument as a kind of electronic resonator, he produced what must be somewhere near the ultimate in guitar sounds, a harsh dry rattle that spells out random rhythmic patterns that contain no melodic or harmonic information whatever.
Between them one comes to the realization that here might be a conscious attempt to eliminate from their work all the load of historical association carried by conventional instruments, taking both instruments and music into an area of newness and purity, an open-ness to new thought, similar in scope to but possibly more flexible than pure electronics.
So it was far-reaching music and an exciting event. More than usually compelling maybe because while the ears were being satisfied by the range of sound the brain was being stretched by the power of thought behind it, the determination to question accepted ideas and the willingness to push their music into its most fulfilling dimensions. It was a mind-expanding experience.
Inevitably, music made at such a level of radical thought doesn’t attract the mass audiences. About 300 people attended, rather less than half-filling Wigmore. In the circumstances, not a bad turn-out for London. Mercifully, the evening hasn’t been lost forever; the concert was recorded and with luck an album or albums will be forthcoming, one day.
Jack Cooke, 1974
Derek Bailey biography:
Derek Bailey (January 29, 1930 – December 25, 2005) was an English free improvising avant-garde guitarist and part of the European free jazz scene.
Bailey was born in Sheffield, England. A third generation musician, he began playing the guitar at the age of ten, going on to study with John Duarte among others. As an adult he found work as a guitarist and session musician in clubs, radio, dance hall bands, and so on, playing with many performers including Gracie Fields, Bob Monkhouse and Kathy Kirby, and on television programs such as ‘Opportunity Knocks’. Bailey was also part of a Sheffield based trio founded in 1963 with Tony Oxley and Gavin Bryars called ‘Joseph Holbrooke’ (named after the composer, whose work they never actually played). Although originally performing relatively ‘conventional’ jazz this group became increasingly free in direction.
Bailey moved to London in 1966, frequenting the Little Theatre Club run by drummer John Stevens. Here he met many other like-minded musicians, such as saxophonist Evan Parker, trumpet player Kenny Wheeler and double bass player Dave Holland. These players often collaborated under the umbrella name of the Spontaneous Music Ensemble, recording the seminal album Karyobin for Island Records in 1968. In this year Bailey also formed the Music Improvisation Company with Parker, percussionist Jamie Muir and Hugh Davies on homemade electronics, a project that continued until 1971. He was also a member of the Jazz Composers Orchestra and Iskra 1903, a trio with double bass player Barry Guy and trombone player Paul Rutherford that was named after a newspaper published by the Russian revolutionary Vladimir Lenin.
In 1970, Bailey founded the record label Incus with Tony Oxley, Evan Parker and Michael Walters. It proved influential as the first musician-owned independent label in the UK. Oxley and Walters left early on; Parker and Bailey continued as co-directors until the mid-1980s, when friction between the men led to Parker’s departure. Bailey continued the label with his partner Karen Brookman until his death in 2005.
Along with a number of other musicians, Bailey was a co-founder of Musics magazine in 1975. This was described as “an impromental experivisation arts magazine” and circulated through a network of like-minded record shops, arguably becoming one of the most significant jazz publications of the second half of the 1970s, and instrumental in the foundation of the London Musicians Collective.
1976 saw Bailey form Company, an ever changing collection of like-minded improvisors, which at various times has included Anthony Braxton, Tristan Honsinger, Misha Mengelberg, Lol Coxhill, Fred Frith, Steve Beresford, Steve Lacy, Johnny Dyani, Leo Smith, Han Bennink, Eugene Chadbourne, Henry Kaiser, John Zorn, Buckethead and many others. Company Week, an annual week long free improvisational festival organised by Bailey, ran until 1994.
In 1980, he wrote the book Improvisation: Its Nature and Practice. This was adapted by UK’s Channel Four into a four part TV series in the early nineties, edited and narrated by Bailey.
Bailey died in London on Christmas Day, 2005. He had been suffering from motor neurone disease.
For listeners unfamiliar with experimental musics, Bailey’s distinctive style can be initially quite difficult. Its most noticeable feature is what appears to be its extreme discontinuity, often from note to note: there may be enormous intervals between consecutive notes, and rather than aspiring to the consistency of timbre typical of most guitar-playing, Bailey interrupts it as much as possible: four consecutive notes, for instance, may be played on an open string, a fretted string, via harmonics, and using a nonstandard technique such as scraping the string with the pick or plucking below the bridge. Many of the key features of his music — radical discontinuity, the self-contained brevity of each gesture, an attraction to wide intervals — owe much to Bailey’s early fascination with Anton Webern, an influence most audible on Bailey’s earliest available recordings, Pieces for Guitar (1966-67, issued on Tzadik).
Playing both acoustic and electric guitars (although more usually the former), Bailey was able to extend the possibilities of the instrument in radical ways, obtaining a far wider array of sounds than are usually heard. He explored the full vocabulary of the instrument, producing timbres and tones ranging from the most delicate tinklings to fierce noise attacks. (The sounds he produced have been compared to those made by John Cage’s prepared piano.) Typically he played a conventional instrument, in standard tuning, but his use of amplification was often crucial. In the 1970s, for instance, his standard set-up involved two independently controlled amplifiers to give a stereo effect onstage, and he often would use the swell pedal to counteract the “normal” attack and decay of notes. He also made highly original use of feedback, a technique demonstrated on the album String Theory (Paratactile, 2000).
Although Bailey occasionally made use of ‘prepared’ guitar in the 1970s (e.g., putting paper clips on the strings, wrapping his instruments in chains, adding further strings to the guitar, etc), often for Dadaist/theatrical effect, by the end of this decade he had, in his own words, ‘dumped’ such methods. Bailey argued that his approach to music making was actually far more orthodox than performers such as Keith Rowe of the improvising collective AMM, who treats the guitar purely as a ‘sound source’ rather than as a musical instrument. Instead Bailey preferred to “look for whatever ‘effects’ I might need through technique.”
Eschewing labels such as “jazz” (even “free jazz”), Bailey describes his music as ‘non-idiomatic’, a label which has been much-debated. In the 2nd edition of his book, Improvisation…, Bailey indicated that he felt that free improvisation was no longer “non-idiomatic” in his sense of the word, as it had become a recognizable genre and musical style itself. In his efforts to avoid predictability he always sought out collaborators from many different fields: players as diverse as Pat Metheny, John Zorn, Lee Konitz, David Sylvian, Cyro Baptista, Cecil Taylor, Keiji Haino, tap dancer Will Gaines, ‘Drum ‘n’ Bass’ DJ Ninj, Thurston Moore of Sonic Youth and the Japanese ‘noise rock’ group Ruins. In fact despite often performing and recording in a solo context, he was far more interested in the dynamics and challenges of working with other musicians, especially those who did not necessarily share his own approach; “There has to be some degree, not just of unfamiliarity, but incompatibility [with a partner]. Otherwise, what are you improvising for? What are you improvising with or around? You’ve got to find somewhere where you can work. If there are no difficulties, it seems to me that there’s pretty much no point in playing. I find that the things that excite me are trying to make something work. And when it does work, it’s the most fantastic thing. Maybe the most obvious analogy would be the grit that produces the pearl in an oyster, or some shit like that.”
Bailey was also known for his dry sense of humour. In 1977 Musics magazine sent the question “What happens to time-awareness during improvisation?” to about thirty musicians associated with the free improvisation scene. The answers received varied from lengthy and highly theoretical essays to more direct comments. Typically pithy was Bailey’s reply; “The ticks turn into tocks and the tocks turn into ticks”
Carpal Tunnel, the last record to be released during his lifetime, documented his personal struggles to come to terms with the development of Carpal Tunnel Syndrome in his right hand, which had rendered him unable to grip a plectrum (and in fact marked the onset of his motor neurone disease). Characteristically, he refused invasive surgery to treat his condition, instead being more “interested in finding ways to work around” this limitation. He chose to “relearn” guitar playing techniques by utilising his right thumb and index fingers to pluck the strings.
selected Derek Bailey recordings: